Little merit in ECT, US study finds
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Opponents of electric-shock therapy are calling for a ban on its use in the elderly after a new study shows they are at increased risk of permanent brain damage.
The Press (New Zealand)
Feb 7 2007
By KAMALA HAYMAN
The elderly, women and people with lower IQs are the most vulnerable to brain damage, particularly memory loss, according to the first large-scale study on the long-term effects of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT).
About 300 patients a year are given ECT in New Zealand. Two-thirds are women and about 60 per cent are over the age of 50.
In a report released last year, the Health Ministry said ECT was “a valuable and sometimes life-saving” treatment for depression, mania and catatonia, although its effects were typically short-term.
In the New York study, just published in the Neuropsychopharmacology international journal, researchers followed 347 patients for six months.
The research team, led by Harold Sackeim, said the study provided the evidence that “adverse cognitive effects can persist for an extended period and that they characterise routine treatment with ECT”.
The “more severe and persisting” memory problems were found in those given ECT to both sides of the brain, leading the team to conclude there was “little justification” for such treatment.
Some patients were given ECT to only the right side of the brain, to protect the memory centre in the left.
Auckland clinical psychologist John Read said some New Zealand patients were still being given ECT on both sides of the brain.
Read, a long-standing campaigner against the use of ECT, has sent a second petition to the parliamentary health select committee calling for a ban on the treatment in older people, pregnant women and those under 18.
Read said the beneficial effects of ECT were short-term and there was no evidence it saved lives by preventing suicide.
He said patients given ECT should be told: “It does make some people feel better for a short period of time and it causes permanent brain damage for a significant proportion of people.”
A Christchurch 53-year-old, given ECT for severe depression last year, said she had consented to her 12-dose treatment but did not believe it was informed consent as she was not warned of the risk of permanent memory loss. “I have lost my long-term memory and I have lost totally the ability to administer and organise things,” she said.
Despite the “dreadful” side-effects, the woman, who did not want to be named, said ECT was a valuable treatment. Severe depression was not only life-threatening, it was a horrendous experience. “I was like the walking dead.”
She said her depression returned several months after the ECT, although it had since lifted, possibly due to acupuncture and meditation.
Canterbury psychiatric patients are among the most likely in the country to have ECT. In the year to June 2005, 79 Canterbury patients had a course of ECT, about one-quarter of the 307 treated nationally.
Health select committee chairwoman and Green MP Sue Kedgley said ECT was a “barbaric and old-fashioned technique” used in New Zealand with little regulation, monitoring or evaluation. The number of patients given ECT varied wildly in different parts of the country, as did the length of each course.
Kedgley was concerned that one in five patients had ECT without giving consent, and the rate was above 50% in some districts.
“If it is going to cause the harm that this research shows, then I certainly question why it should be given to people without their consent,” she said.
Canterbury psychiatrist Richard Porter, who oversees ECT use, said one-sided (unilateral) ECT was usually prescribed unless treatment was particularly urgent or there was no response to unilateral ECT.
“The choice is discussed with patients and family and the pros and cons explained before the decision is made,” he said. This particularly applied to the elderly, in whom it had been “known for a long time” that memory loss was more likely, he said.
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i had ect 13 years ago i have short term memory and am disabled permanently in other words its brain damage i am still depressed and take several meds this was the biggest mistake in my life i am worthless in many ways i dont even remember my daughters child hood
I’m 35 years old and have had over 300 ECT treatments in the past five years. I have short-term and long-term memory problems. I still think ECT was worth it to me to save my life. I stopped maintenance treatments four months ago and am hoping some of my memories will come back and that my short-term memory will improve as well.
Hi my name is Dianna Palmer and i was reading some comments up above. I had 13 ect too and still have problems rembering about the past.It really brothers me alot.I hate it.Is there any thing I can do.I was only 13 teen years old.at the time.
I had ECT treatments 5-6 years ago and I feel it was the worst decison of my life. It did nothing for me- It caused memory loss and cognitive dysfunctioning. The wanted outcome by psychiatrist I believe- To instill fear and terror and dumb you down. The fear and terror came for me realizing the damage that had been done many months down the road. Don’t be psychiatries whore. Take personal responsabilty and search out others ways to heal your emotional scars. There are no quick fixes. Magic pills and sending enough electricty through your brain that could kill you if it was not contained to your brain is not the answer. WAKE UP !!!!!
sammie has been studying ect with fervor and greatly appreciates your comments, especially those from you wo have had treatments. while scientific evidence that jay whitlow has presented is indeterminate whitlow believe the personal stories speak for themselves. However, jay whitlow and eric y state, that regardless of any positive effects, it still seems cruel to be giving treatments to the elderly, those who are already experiencing memory issues. jay whitlow would like to hear more about this. whitlow is especially interested if there are any testimonials reporting positive results from ect with the elderly.
eric y and jay whitlow
I’m sorry that some of these people have had such a bad experirence with ECT. I’ve had around 125 ECT’s, and it is the only reason that I am still alive. I’ve tried almost every medication, therapy, acupuncture, and massage therapy that I could get my hands on for Bipolar Disorder. ECT has been the most effective! Yes, there are side effects, like memory loss, thinking problems, headaches, etc. However, I have found that with the right anesthesiologist, some of these can be reduced, if not completely negated. I hope there are other people out there that take advantage of this, and reduce there suffering!
It’s so sad to read some of these stories. I’ve had three rounds of ECT, with four to five treatments in each round. I experience memory problems soon after each treatment, and I always lose the memory of the day before each treatment. I’m on four psych meds, and I would like to get off of them because of the side effects. My plan is to gradually discontinue the psych meds and replace them with monthly maintenance ECT treatments. I get the Ultra Brief Unilateral ECT treatments, which have fewer side effects than traditional ECT. I recommend the Ultra Brief Unilateral ECT treatments, but only for those people who have no doubt that they really need it. If you can control your depression using meds, then don’t take a chance on ECT because the risks are too great. If you have doubts about whether to have ECT, then don’t have ECT. But if you have no doubt that you indeed do need ECT, and if your psych meds aren’t helping, then find a doctor who is willing to give you the Ultra Brief Unilateral ECT. They give this treatment at the University of Minnesota Fairview Riverside Hospital. Good luck.
I often think about the similarities between shock treatment and a concussion-blow to the head. I would imagine a person wouldn’t be thinking about there depression if they were asked questions about this any time soon after receiving either one. Of course this would make perfect sense in relation to maintenance treatments. Would make sense to me why after receiving these treatments- later on down the road the depression just returns. I guess if someone wants to pay for someone to give them a concussion and at the same time do endless brain damage - IT is there choice or is it? I would imagine doctors took somthing called the HYPOCRATIC OATH. IT seems to me psychiatrist are in direct violation of this OATH every time they intentionally, knowingly damage someones brain.
I’ve suffered from depression all my life…took prozac many, many years ago…before all the bad publicity…and had a psychotic reaction from it and never touched psyche meds since then…and have suffered untreated ever since. I was considering ECT after seeing this vid: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/189
However, having read some of your comments, I’m having second thoughts. I can’t help but wonder if some of the negative side effects some people are reporting are actually from the powerful drugs the anesthesiologists use when knocking people out. I had surgery some years ago and when I awoke from the drugs, I felt very, very confused, groggy, ‘out of it’ and took a long time in the recovery room to get my bearings enough to go home. Then I had a follow up surgery about a month later…I complained beforehand about my experience and either I had a different anesthesiologist or they used a different drug cocktail, but when I woke up, I felt ‘great’ and clear-headed and actually left the hospital and had lunch with a relative.
So…not sure if the ECT is partially or completely to blame for people’s memory problems and such…but the anesthesiology drugs is an angle people should also look at…the could have long term effects if people are getting them dozens of times over a short period…
Peace
I have had three courses of ECT over the past 25 years and I can say that I know for certain that ECT saved my life. I do not believe in ECT without consent, but I also don’t want this life-saving treatment deamed illegal simply because not everyone has enjoyed the success that ECT can provide in recovering from a psychiatric illness.
i had ect after 3 suicide attempts and 12 yrs of depression tried all meds no change 2005 i had 8 ect’s and i am so happy i did it It WORKS there is a small memory loss that came back after a yr
I was given ECT as a teenager upon the recommendation of a psychiatrist who totally missed the mark. I was the product of alcoholic and abusive parents. Rather than seek treatment for their disorders, they chose to ‘dumb me down’ by sending me for ECT. It is one of the most terrifying parts of my past. I am not sure I will ever get over it but I do thank God that I can still function with minimal side effects. I feel ECT is barbaric and should be banned forever.
I agee with the above comments
I think ECT is brutal and should be banned completely and help, kindness and the talking therapies used in it’s place. Psychiatrists are on a level with the Inquisiters in the 15th to 17th centuries Then there was a war on people suspected of being witches, now it is a war on people suspected of being mentally ill This is all made up, the same as witchcraft It is time everyone woke up to the falsehood of this psydo-science I know because it was given to me wihout my consent as a teen ager 42+ times and I have also read many good books about the damage Electro Shock Torture causes
my dad is 90 years ole and continues to holler ” Iwant to go home” He does cry a lot but all these tears are not from depression. he is very religious and cries when he is praying…the doctors and nurses deem him depressed……….my mom died in 1993 and two years ago he had to be put in a nursing home………..he had fallen at home and underwent neuro surgery for bilateral hematomas of the brain………………….can you believe his psychiatrist now wants to induce a seizure to control his behavior…………… i am one of 7 living children left on this earth to see that he is given the care he needs and protect his safety…..three of these children voted yes but four of us said “no” He is a DNR and does not want his heart shocked………why in the world would they think he would want his brain shocked…………please pray that we can continue to see this not done to our dad for his remaining years, month, weeks, days?????
My mother has suffered from depression for as long as I have known her (I am 48). She has had three major depressive episodes, with psychosis and severe anxiety. The first episode she tried medication for two years, only to end up setting our home on fire in an attempt to commit suicide and she killed our beloved dog. She also nearly killed herself. She was admitted to a psychiatric hospital and received ECT. The woman that came out of that hospital is someone I never knew. She was happy, light, carefree, and smiling. There were no problems with memory loss or forgetfulness. Six years later, we went through the same thing - two years of meds and they don’t work, only to end up back in a psych hospital and ect again. Same great response for her. Now she is battling her third episode and again we have tried meds for almost two years and she is getting worse again. She has been approved for ECT after meeting with two psychiatrists and will be admitted to a medical hospital rather than a psych hospital because of her age (she is 84) and medical needs. I have no reason to expect anything but good results again for her. Educate yourselves and you will see that the benefits of ECT far outweigh the risks. My Mom is living proof.
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Please read the work of Dr.Joseph Burrascano, Dr.Richard Bransfield, Dr.Virginia Sherr, and review the diagnostic criteria and guidelines published by ILADS (International Lyme and Associated Diseases).
Thanks for reading all this!