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Zoloft online without prescription, Scroll way down for a 2006 update. This first section is my original "why" statement, last updated in 2002.
I created ect.org in 1995 after having had ECT myself the year before and having a very bad result. It started simply, a way of sharing information with others who were searching for answers. It's grown into an extensive website with what I hope is comprehensive information that will offer support and provide some of the answers to many of your questions.
I receive a lot of email every day, from persons considering ECT, loved ones, and persons who have had ECT and don't understand what happened, zoloft online without prescription. They were given promises, order cheap zoloft online, and those promises were broken. Yet it never fails to astound me when I receive email full of the lies the industry continues to tell. I absolutely swear that out in the field, in modern day civilization, psychiatrists are telling their patients that ECT is the miracle cure, it will cure your mental illness, Order zoloft no rx, your migraines, and even Alzheimer's Disease. (That was even testified as fact in a court of law, and swallowed by a US judge, who then ordered forced ECT on a woman in her 80s.)
I am called many things by the ECT industry and proponents - a Scientologist, a nut case, anti-psychiatry zealot. Zoloft online without prescription, I am none of the above. I am a woman who was severely depressed (re-diagnosed as bipolar disorder during the ECT treatments) and had ECT in 1994, zoloft overnight. The ECT, according to my mother, lifted me from a depression into a brief silliness (the euphoric high that typically follows ECT), quickly followed by an even worse depression than before. And it left me with severe memory loss, and I believe some cognitive damage. Real zoloft without prescription, I'm interested in the people who say "But you're so articulate now, how could it have possibly been destructive?" My answer: You do not know me. You do not know what I was like before I had the ECT, and you do not know what I am like now, zoloft online without prescription. Do not pretend that you know what I feel, what I think or who I am. A few words on a website does not give you a picture of me, other than the picture I *choose* to present in public. Most people who know me, other than those EXTREMELY close to me never even knew I was depressed, purchase zoloft online. I have a public face, and a private face, and the two are very different. Zoloft online without prescription, I work very hard at maintaining the public face, and I have worked hard to recover from a very low point. I have never said I was brain dead, simply that there was damage.
It took me a year to emerge from the fog that resulted from the ECT. Buy cheapest zoloft online, And it's taken six years to recover to the point that I am able to fully articulate what has happened. I have spent the last years reading the research, including the studies that ECT experts use to promote the treatment. Day by day, I grow more convinced that ECT is not an effective treatment, and that it does little more than provide a brief respite from depression, followed by despair and hopelessness.....and potential damage to the brain, zoloft online without prescription.
This website is not an attempt to dissuade anyone from having ECT. If you have chosen to have the treatment, I support your decision and wish you well. If you've come looking for information, I sincerely hope that you will find genuine sources of information presenting all sides of ECT, zoloft pills, not just the public face that the industry presents. However, you will find plenty of pro-ECT information here, because I think it's important to look at this from every angle. Zoloft online without prescription, Yes, there are anecdotal stories that ECT is a miracle cure. And those are trotted out continually when proponents of the treatment try to deflect any negative information. Yet, Zoloft india, when former patients come to the forefront to discuss their bad experiences, the proponents say their concerns aren't valid, that anecdotal information isn't worthy of recognition. Well, folks, you can't have it both ways. I believe that if you're going to listen to anecdotal information, you must listen to both sides, zoloft in malaysia, not just the "ECT saved my life" viewpoint. On the other hand, I do believe it's important to hear the happy endings as well, zoloft online without prescription. They are important. All of the voices of ECT are important, and should be heard...including mine.
I have been threatened and I have been harassed because of my views. I have had emails from fanatics that included viruses; pictures of mutilated animals with threats that I'm next; name calling (Scientologist, Zoloft for sale, as well as words that are offensive to women); gifs saying f*** you wh***; and "orders" telling me to stop what I'm doing. Zoloft online without prescription, People are now on notice that, from this point on, all emails like these may be publicly posted. You will see various threats of lawsuits posted around the site, and I may post any emails containing legal and any other kind of threat.
I will not submit to the powers that be, and I will be heard. I am continually called a Scientologist, and it makes me angry. I don't believe that my religious beliefs are anyone's business but my own, zoloft alternative, but for the record....I was raised a good Presbyterian and if I went to church today, that is the church I would choose.
I do have some goals regarding ECT and those include:
1, zoloft online without prescription. Regulation. As it stands, this treatment is not regulated. Devices are not tested until they are used in practice. And as we've seen with the recent MECTA lawsuit, Find cheap zoloft, consequences can be disastrous. Moreover, there's been no recall of this machine. Zoloft online without prescription, How many of these machines are out there still being used.I want statistics kept in every state. Currently, only four states - California, Massachusetts, Colorado, zoloft online cheap, and Texas - maintain any sort of record keeping. Groups like NAMI and the APA oppose this, saying it adds a layer of red tape. Bullshit. It gives data to researchers on the number of patients receiving ECT, complication rates, and demographics, zoloft online without prescription. We don't even know the number of patients having ECT...any figures are estimates only.
Even very strongly pro-ECT doctors are recognizing that ECT treatment is a free-for-all. Buy zoloft generic, With some regulation, perhaps there would be standards, rules, and accountability instead of what is now nothing more than haphazardness.
2. Informed consent. Zoloft online without prescription, Patients have the right to know the full risks, not a watered-down version that the kinder, gentler ECT of today is without any risk. In public, doctors say memory loss and cognitive damage doesn't occur. In private, buy zoloft canada, it's accepted as fact, and studies are done to find drugs to lessen this. The truth beforehand, IMO, would result in better outcomes for patients. They would know *before* ECT that they might have substantial, Zoloft canada, permanent memory loss, and would be able to make a valid choice that such loss outweighed continuing depression. And they should be told it is not 100 percent effective, nor do the effects last in most cases, zoloft online without prescription. They should be made aware of maintenance ECT *before* they undergo a series, not when their treatments have failed.
3. An end to forced ECT. This is not a treatment that should be given without consent. Enough said.
Zoloft online without prescription, 4. More research into the lasting effects of ECT, pharmacy zoloft. ECT proponents claim that studies showing brain damage and permanent negative effects are out of date. But they are the only studies that exist. Let's do more research into this - the funding is there. Promises are not being kept.
I certainly don't want to believe that the very people we entrust with our health would deliberately harm us, zoloft online without prescription. But in the last years of intense research, in talking with thousands of ECT patients, I do believe that we, Purchase zoloft overnight delivery, the public and consumers, arenot being told the full truth. Whether that's out of a misguided, paternalistic attempt to do what's "best" for the mentally ill, who don't know any better, or whether it's financial, I can't say for sure. I suspect it's a combination of the two, order zoloft overnight delivery.
I think the doctors on the front line, for the most part, are sincere in their belief that they are helping us. Zoloft online without prescription, And certainly in some cases, patients have credited ECT with saving their lives. Their views are every bit as important as those people who say ECT has ruined theirs.
Quite often, people charge that I'm just an anti-psychiatry zealot, Zoloft, someone out to deny lifesaving treatment to those in need. I am neither anti-psychiatry, (I still see a psychiatrist every other week) nor am I out to ban ECT. I do want it regulated, and I want my end of the spectrum, someone who has been harmed by ECT, recognized.
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Honestly, I don't remember most of what I'm going to tell you. It's based on stories from family and friends, and from writings in my journal.
I was suffering a severe depression, and my psychiatrist, Zoloft online, like so many others, felt the medications weren't working. Zoloft online without prescription, He had been pushing for ECT for months, but I resisted. He told me the "new and improved" ECT was nothing like the ECT of the past. They now used unilateral instead of bilateral, and a lot less power. He engaged my family in the fight, and they joined him in encouraging this treatment.
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I feel like I'm going to die. Order zoloft from us, The blackness surrounds me and there's no way out. Today I asked Dr. Zoloft online without prescription, E if I could try a couple of drugs I'd heard about from Dr. Goldberg, but he yelled at me. Said he didn't care how the hell they did it at Columbia. This is how we do it here. And he told me I had to have ECT, or he wanted me out as his patient, tablet zoloft. I don't have a choice anymore, zoloft online without prescription. No other doctor will take me. I'm such a bad patient. Hard to treat. No one wants that. Zoloft online without prescription, They want a patient who will cheerfully take her Prozac and get better. I fail, even at depression. Discount zoloft, So I guess I'll have the fucking ECT. Nothing left to try. It worries me, but at least it will work, and get rid of this black cloud that is swallowing me whole. Let's electrocute that part of me, sentence it to death, and let my old self reemerge, zoloft online without prescription. Dr. E finally wins this round.
And so I was given a series of bilateral treatments. Apparently they talk a good talk about unilateral, cheap zoloft tablet, but in reality it's not used that much. In my dealings with so many ECT patients, I've only run into one person who actually had unilateral. Zoloft online without prescription, And it didn't help his depression at all.
Frankly, I don't remember a thing. I was in the hospital for the entire time. Zoloft pills, Each day, according to accounts from others, I had a bad headache.
For one day, I refused to speak any English, my native language. I spoke only Russian, and they think I was cussing out the doctor, due to the intensity of my voice and body language, zoloft online without prescription.
I tried to fix my mother up with a man (patient) whose pants kept falling off. Then I gave him a pair of my sweatpants, lowest price for zoloft. My mother was not amused, although the rest of my family thinks it's hilarious.
My aunt brought me some kitchen towels and placemats with kittens on them. Zoloft online without prescription, I thought they were cute and thanked her. This is now a joke, although it's more tragic than funny, IMO. Zoloft online without a prescription, Each day, I would see the items and say, "Oh, aren't those cute. Where did they come from?" My mother or aunt would tell me my aunt brought them. That was a daily event, and continued for weeks after I was home. For weeks, I would ask, "Oh, aren't those cute, zoloft online without prescription. Where did they come from?" when I saw them on the table, cheapest generic zoloft.
The worst of all is that I apparently gave my phone number to several patients. One was a drug dealer, and he called me several times, saying I had given him my number in hospital, trying to set up drug deals...that I wanted to buy crack. I've never used crack in my life. Zoloft online without prescription, I admit that I occasionally indulge in a toke or two of pot, but I certainly would never attempt to buy it from someone I didn't know. Zoloft free delivery, I would get calls from men, saying I had consented to go on dates with them, and got one from a fellow who said I told him he could move in with me. I have no idea who these people were, except that I'd given my number to them in the hospital. (My number was unlisted.) From the conversations, I don't think I ever met any of them outside the hospital. I sure hope not, zoloft from india.
Those calls continued until the day I moved to a new town, zoloft online without prescription. I've since heard from several ECT patients who have done similar things.
The spring before ECT, I had taken (apparently) a few trips to New York City, to see my then-boyfriend. He and I are still friends and talk by phone occasionally. I have absolutely no memory of those trips, Low price zoloft, although from the smiles on my face in pictures, I apparently had a wonderful time. Zoloft online without prescription, The only proof I have of those trips is plane ticket stubs, photos and conversations with the gentleman. He and I have talked many times, and I have to fake it, pretending I remember what he's talking about. (He didn't know I had ECT...he was - very smartly - against it.)
Recently, I talked to him, and he asked me about something I'd apparently purchased on one of my NY trips, cheap zoloft no prescription. To this minute, I'm confused about it. I can't find the item, and have no memory of ever having it. I still have some boxes at my aunt's house, so perhaps it's there, zoloft online without prescription. But it's so bothersome to know that I have no memory of ever having bought or owned it.
I've lost about two years of my life from memory loss...approx. Zoloft professional, a year and a half before the ECT, and about 8 months following. It's just gone. Zoloft online without prescription, The ECT industry says that I'm mistaken. Some say I'm a Scientologist, as if my religious belief would cause me to misunderstand what happened to me. I am offended by that, and I am offended that I continually have to publicly proclaim what my religious beliefs are.
The memory loss is heartbreaking because I should have some wonderful memories of my NY trips, cheap zoloft overnight delivery. And I'm sure there are many other good times in there. But I don't remember them, zoloft online without prescription.
What hurts the most is the scorn I receive from the ECT industry, from the doctors who make their living by this, from NAMI, and from the APA. They simply dismiss my complaints, Zoloft side effects, as they deny the memory loss of so many others. It's bad enough to have the loss, but then to be told I'm lying, or over exaggerating, or misunderstanding - it's horrible. They just say it didn't happen. Zoloft online without prescription, Or that I'm a Scientologist.But it did happen. I live it every day. And I'm a Presbyterian, zoloft approved.
(I have removed another story concerning my ECT at the request of those involved.)Let me again be very clear. I am pro-choice on all things, and that extends to ECT. I absolutely support the right of anyone who chooses ECT...or chooses something else.Had I been told honestly that I might lose a portion of my memory, and that I might suffer permanent cognitive damage, I would not be angry as I am today, zoloft online without prescription. It would not have been so devastating to me. I would have made a more informed decision.
Juli Lawrence
ECT survivor
updated April 2002
2006 update:
As regular visitors can see, Zoloft online sale, I've been hard at work redesigning the ect.org website. It's an ongoing evolution, prompted not by natural selection, but my own mood swings. Zoloft online without prescription, I thought that since I've redone the site from scratch (massive job...way too many pages, but I'm apparently a hoarder), it's time to update this "Why Me" page.
Above you'll find the original write-up, which explains why I started this site. My original vision has not changed: most of all I want to provide as much information about electroshock as possible, and provide a place of support for those who have had it, or are thinking about it.
So I'm asked a lot about me, in the here and now. It's been more than a decade since I was shocked. I'm over it, but the quest continues to enact regulatory changes and public awareness, zoloft online without prescription. Every now and then I burn out and back off, putting my energies wholeheartedly into my gardening and other pursuits.
Burnout is a problem in this business of activism. Change is slow, and it gets frustrating. And I see and hear the same things again and again. Zoloft online without prescription, I call it the March of the Damned, which I wrote into a piece for Leonard Roy Frank's Quotationary.
A psychiatrist would probably diagnose my activity as manic vs. non manic, or perhaps mildly depressed. Maybe, but I think it's just a cycling of how burned out I get, followed by refresh and a renewed enthusiasm. As I write this, I'm on the upswing. Wahoo, zoloft online without prescription.
I don't know how to describe the state of my "mental illness." I'm not nutty anymore (though some might disagree with that assessment). I still see a psychiatrist (not the one who shocked me - he died), but I haven't taken psych drugs in a long time. My psychiatrist has himself moved away from drugs (though he does still prescribe them) towards Freudian therapy. Most in the industry consider that cockapoo and old fashioned, so he now understands what it's like to be constantly told you're full of sh*t. Zoloft online without prescription, He's in my club. He's also totally given up the practice of electroshock, which he jokingly says is thanks to me. I like to think I played a role, and perhaps I did. But deep down, I think he's just been seduced by Freud and a nice leather couch.
I still have the same personality defects I always had: I'm not that fond of most people. I'm not that crazy about talking on the phone, save a couple of very close friends, zoloft online without prescription. I'm very opinionated, and that goes way beyond ECT. I have strong opinions on politics, too, but I try and keep that out of this business for a variety of reasons. (One reason might be I'm not in the mood for a lynching, thanks.) The politics enters in when I praise or condemn a politician, but I don't care what his/her party affiliation might be. I only care, as Janet Jackson once sang..."What have you done for me late-lyyyy?"
I moved awhile back, and my neighbor two houses down is a state assemblyman...I plan to eventually start annoying him. Zoloft online without prescription, In a nice, lobbying way and with a smile and perhaps a fancy hat.
My other personality defects include being a clutterbug and being overly passionate about certain issues, including mental health odds and ends. I'm also quite patriotic, and that's certainly not a cool thing to be anymore. Amazing how living under oppressive, communist dictatorships changes your world view. It rocked my world and forever changed my perspective.
So that's the latest update on the state of Juli Lawrence. I'm nothing if not wordy at times.
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Juli,
I appreciate your time spent on this website and your pursuit for ALL sides of ECT information.
I learned some things that I did not know.
I suffer from depression and had ECT 2004-2005. Although I did experience memory loss, my ect was successful in the sense that I was in a severe depression for many months, hospitalized and suicidal. It was my fifth hospitalization in four years. I have been on many different meds and combinations of. Many unsuccessful. I have not been hospitalized in two years. That is not to say that I have not had my periods of deep, paralyzing depression. I have. And I have made it through. I have an incredible support system. I am lucky. However, this past winter (which is my worst time of year even though I love snow), I began to wonder whether I would benefit from “maintenance ECT”. It is not an easy conversation to have with people, even some psyciatrists. It is still a taboo topic. I am still on a journey to discover if it is the right thing for me. Thanks for your website.
Jennifer, thanks for your gracious comments.
You might benefit from talking with a couple of folks over on the message boards. They’re doing regular maintenance ECT and can give you the ins and outs, plus the kind of support you need. They aren’t shy about talking both positives and negatives. Very kind people.
There’s one guest forum where you don’t have to register, though for full discussion, unfortunately you’ll have to sign up for an account. It’s free, but I know it’s a PITA.
Hope to see you there:
http://www.zaprap.org
Juli
Hi Juli,
Thank-you for your outstanding website, and for all the effort you’ve put into it over the years. I’m finding a tremendous amount of information.
I was hospitalized at the beginning of November (2007) and received 5 ECT treatments. As with just about everyone else, information about memory loss and potential cognitive damage was just glossed over. I was aware of just how awful the memory loss was after the fifth treatment and stopped further treatments abruptly. The first week home from the hospital was a nightmare for me. I had no way of knowing if my memory would return and, if so, how fast. Very slowly, my short term memory, the one most affected, began to return. So did the depression! After three weeks, most of my memory had returned, and so had most of my depression. I consented to about 4 more treatments and then tapering. I know there will be memory loss. I’m hoping that the fact that I’m prepared will make it not quite as devastating. What I am still noticing is a frequent inability to come up with just the right word, when I’m having a conversation with someone. I have no idea if this “peculiarity” will be permanent or not.
I’ll probably write more after Christmas. In the mean time, thanks again for having such a great site. I want to wish you and all your readers a wonderful Christmas, Chanakuh, or Kwanzaa.
Dear Juli,
I’m sorry that ECT did not work out for you. While I can agree with some things on your website, I just wanted to share a little about my story.
I was depressed for some time, labeled as Bi-Polar (with some other diagnoses). Tried every medication and was at the end of my rope. I was given the option of ECT in 2007 and I went along with it. I had 6-7 treatments that were both in and out patient.
I was told I would have some memory loss but that it should come back. I don’t remember much of 2007. Maybe that’s a good thing because it was some of my worst times. Who knows.
With that said, I used to be on 5-7 different medications. I have successfully been getting of them for the past 6-12 months. I am down to one medication. If all goes well, I should be off of that by June or July of this year. I will continue to take over the counter Fish Oil.
I’m also going back to college. I’m taking one class right now and doing very well. I volunteer at an assisted living home every Thursday and a couple Saturdays a month. I also watch my 91/2 month old nephew at least two days a week.
While it took a couple years, I personally feel like ECT worked for me. I wouldn’t be where I am today if I had not had it. My memory isn’t great but I will take that over constant depression.
I know we all have different experiences. I wish you all the best.
Great to read all this stuff. My Mother died 15 years ago this October and I am only now reading up on this.
She was given electric shock treatments on and off most of her adult life (well since early married life at least) and also very, very strong drugs which gave her debilitating tardive dyskenesia- uncontrollable tremors. I know her memory was affected by the shocks.
She died at the early age of 66 (her own Mother died late at 96) fairly suddenly of an undetected brain tumour.
I would love to know if there could be a connection between her medical treatment and her tumour. What I DO know is that the treatment destoyed her quality of life- and suspect it MAY have even caused her death.
What can I do? I am writing from Belfast and I don’t know if there are any campaigns to join- after 15 years I am ready….
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you (to Juli) for taking the time to set up this website & for keeping it going, despite the pressure & threats you’ve been getting. Make no mistake, the medical profession really is just as corrupt and “profit” motivated than that politician that lives down your street. They also really are in the prehistoric age as far as understanding the first thing about how our bodies (let alone brain) operate and respond to treatments.
Ive had depression for most of my life but it’s been chronic/severe for the past 10 years. It became terrible & entrenched after i suffered through several medical stuff ups, that left me with deep physical & mental scars. They were the work of a group of exceedingly ignorant & arrogant (ever notice how those 2 characteristics work in inverse proportion) who were mostly flying blind but whose egos where such that they would never admit it, even to themselves. It is amazing how doctors can screw someone’s life so entirely and not-in-a-million-years ever dream to apologise. When things go wrong, the medical professionals are masters at making the patient/victim believe it was their fault. The patient just becomes the patient’s or someone elses problem.
There are more people who have been chewed up and spat out by medics than people know.
Anyway, about 8 years ago I (for some inexplicable reason) went back for more, ie I had 16 rounds of ECT to deal with the depression. Not only did it do nothing for my depression, I have no recollection of about 5+ years prior, and I completely forgot who my grandmother was (who I was really close to…apparently).
My EEGs since then have shown a level of brain damage (slow brain wave only seen in brain damaged people) which the doctors continue to blame on medication & anything else they can think of to stave off responsibility, everything other than the ECT. Like Juli, unless ur slurring your speech (which I have been doing btw, since the ECT, & am only able to stop it by exercising daily – if I stop exercising for more than 3 days, the slurring starts again).
People say there’s nothing with me, but I was a straight-A student (topped more than 1/2 my subjects at uni) and my brain was/is not the same after the ECT. The problem with trying to bring stuff like this to light, is that there is no definitive way to measure mental disorder or brain functionality. Until medicine becomes more than just guesswork, and isn’t majority-funded by the large pharmaceutical and medical-supply companies, the arrogance, denial and egotism of anyone with a medical degree will continue. All we have left are sites like this to pass on our experiences and to say to anyone considering this – be careful and do your research before blindly buying whatever your doctor tells you.
Hi Juli, My younger sister is in the process or nearing treatment. A long while depressed and living counter to society, has my parents at their wits end. I almost feel that she selectively pull out the suicide card to get her way as they are her link to the world and she depends on them. She also deals with severe anxiety and pain issues. While regulating the most recent pain meds my father noticed a descrepency and found her to be lying. Long story short, she quit the rehab program and talks of suicide which leaves my worried parents to commit her. I believe that she has a crisis of inactivity and too much medication. I hate to contradict my parent – but I feel as if I should stop the ECT as she has never stuck to any kind of program and her doctors had her so over medicated I don’t think she ever had a chance to truly give therapy a chance. From this information, what do you think I should do?
Hi Juli,
I am currently reading “The Shock Doctrine” by Naomi Klein and am horrified by the account of Gail Kastner’s treatment at McGill University as part of the MKUlra experiments using ECT. I have been spurred on to look for more information, and that brought me to your site. Thank you for your dedication in presenting not just your own experience with such courageous honesty, but also multi-perspective and balanced information from many sources. I have little to offer to the conversation, as ECT has not affected my life personally. (I don’t know anyone personally who has experienced it.) But I believe strongly that a sense of solidarity, even between people with very different life experiences, is important. For what it is worth, I wanted to say to you that I admire you for your honesty and courage and for “fighting the good fight” to encourage the same in others with this marvellous site.